According to you, What is the difference Between "Muslim" and "Momin"?

Waqas Gillani | 13 years ago

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Asked by: Waqas Gillani | 13 years ago | Answers: 4 | Views: 8273

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Naveed Javed | 13 years ago

I'll just share this quote: If some one's having difficulty in reading Urdu, we can help!!

Ashfaq Ahmed Likhtay Hain
1 Sawal Ne Mujhe Bohat Pareshan Keya,
MOMIN Aur MUSLIM Mein Kya Faraq Hai?
Bohat Logon Se Pucha Lekin Kissi K Jawab Se Mutmin Na Hua,
1 Daffa 1 Village Se Guzra
Dekha K 1 Baba G Gannay Ka Russ Nikaal Rahay Hain
Na Janay Dill Mein Kheyaal Aaya K Inn Se Sawal Poochon
Tou Main Ne Salam Keya Aur Ijazat Lae Kar Sawal Btaaya
He Thought & Replied!
“Muslim Wo Hai Jo ALLAH Ko Manta Hai”
Aur
“Momin Wo Hai Jo ALLAH Ki Manta Hai”.

Answered by: Naveed Javed | 13 years ago

1 votes

Nabeha | 13 years ago

From whatever I know I believe that 'A person who believe in Allah (swt) is Muslim and one who submits himself totally to Allah's will is Momin'
Check this video to get clarification from Quran :- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9I3q5VUUQ0

Answered by: Nabeha | 13 years ago

1 votes

Ali Iqbal | 13 years ago

the distinction has never been made clear to me in my circles, nor have i ever asked. Unfortunate? idk.
The Shia people have their clear definition of it though. according to that they consider themselves momin while the common non-twelver shia pakistani falls in the category of muslim which is somewhat lower status given that (according to the doctrine) a muslim's iman has something missing (if you know what i mean). i wont go into the details because as i am not a member, i fear sprouting information which might not be true for all of shias and probably and maybe, there is something more to it than i know.

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Answered by: Ali Iqbal | 13 years ago

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sorry if something is incorrect above, do correct me if applicable.

Ali Iqbal | 13 years ago

Heres an excerpt defintion of Momin given by Imam Ali :
"A momin would be such that his ribs would be concave and sticking to his stomach , that his eyes would be red with crying and prraying for Allah". His love for the Holy Prophet and his family should superceede any of his own desires.
Btw what do u mean by the non- twelver shias? :S *sonfused*

Alizeh | 13 years ago

in the course of my readings, i have found that there are many denominations under the shia umbrella that far surpass those of the so called sunni sect. the twelvers are the ones following the 12 imams, seveners are ismailis (they have a difference of imam on the seventh imam, and there are further divisions here too including but not limited to alavi bohra, dawoodi bohra, nizari, druze), nusairis (alawi) and zaidis.... and maybe more.

thanks for the reference, the qoute however does not differentiate between momin and muslim!

Ali Iqbal | 13 years ago

Yes that' s true , but nusairis are not muslims, anyone who doesn't believe in Allah (sawt) and the the Holy Prophet Muhammad (s) as the last prophet cannot be a muslim. Anyways it's a known ahadith of the Holy Prophet (s) that there will be 72 sects and only one will attain jannah.
Btw the jammah al sunnah als have baralevli ,deobandi,humbali ,shafaae ,hanafi,malaki, and many more. Unfortunately wahabsm is also wearing the garb of sunni Islam so that they can merge easily with the public.
The ahadith was to show that the stature and piety (taqwah ) of a momin is much above the requirement of a Muslim.
ps: This is a general overview so nobody should be offended .:)

Alizeh | 13 years ago

i am not saying who is muslim who is not, i explained what little i knew about momin and muslim.. and when you asked what is twelver, i replied to that!
yeah the sunnis got sects too, but i just said, i my knowledge the people under shia umbrella are like way khichri, many are extinct now, unbeknownst to the shia population atlarge. i am not implying that it undermines the shia philosophy, as a hypothetical example, i am counting those also who say jai jai ram and say they are shia!

as for me, i could be a wahabi :D

Ali Iqbal | 13 years ago

lol :D

Alizeh | 13 years ago

1 votes

Zainab Hussain | 13 years ago

A muslim is someone who believes in Allah, his prophet SAW and other aqaids/iman of Islam also the pillars of Islam.
A Momin is someone who has Momin : Taqwa , Par-hez-gari and Amal . If these 3 things if muslim adopts then he is a momin, The love of Allah and his prophet is the greatest for him and no worldy desire can take it's place.
for example: we all read quran coz you're born in a Muslim family and follow some acts of worship of Allah but we don't understand the meaning of Quran and act upon it in our daily life completely.

The Messenger of Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: “A momin does not taunt, does not curse and reproach, does not indulge in obscene talking and obscene acts.” [Tirmidhi]

Answered by: Zainab Hussain | 13 years ago

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Well yeah this cannot be defined in one answer. But there is another famous couplet which sort of defines khudi's application.
Apne mann mai doob k pa ja soragh-e-zindagi
Tu mera nahi banta na ban, apna tu ban
The concept of Iqbal is discussed so much everywhere but never achieved or practiced...

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