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Too Many Osamas on the site, any chance Osama Bin Laden joins us too? Or you really think he is dead?

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

The serious Question remains whats your view about the Abbottabad operation? It does not have to be supported by evidence. You can even use logical answers and/or what you 'feel' actually happened?
What do your instincts say?

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Asked by: Awais Amjad | 14 years ago | Answers: 6 | Views: 2765

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Munahil Murrieum | 14 years ago

Till the time Talibans confirmed that Osama Bin Laden was dead, I thought Abbottabad Operation was just a drama, and nothing more. How could one of the top most wanted criminals live so openly, and with his family without even neighbors noticing and for five years? And later on, Americans do not show us any evidence of his death, other than few stupid videos, that he kept in his home openly, so that anyone can come and show them?
I still think it’s just propaganda against Pakistan, to embarrass them in front of the whole world: S

Answered by: Munahil Murrieum | 14 years ago

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Yeah, I think Pakistan should openly ask US for some solid proof regarding the operation, which should also be made public. If they can hang Saddam and release the videos of the act than this one is very vital in order for people to believe.

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

Do you think they will respond if Pakistan will ask openly? They will never. Being super power, they are not obliged to answer us :S
They were not even apologetic for using our air space. What actions did we take? nothing? We warned them not to use it again, as if they care :/

Munahil Murrieum | 14 years ago

Atleast we will come clean to the world and more importantly to the people of Pakistan. Speaking of being apologetic, there is a proverb in Punjabi that means something like "Keep your belongings safe and dont call anyone a thief". We are so messed up that we have even compromised our National Security :@

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

Yeah, but again, we were helpless; we could not do anything in front of the "Super Power".
But yeah, after American's denied to show the video evidences, some of the World might be on our side, but this still doesn’t mean that we could come clean, after the humiliation we faced.

Munahil Murrieum | 14 years ago

Here's the thing, when you are not willing to compromise on Principles like upholding the respect of your People, you just dont compromise on anything that could affect that.
Sadly we are forced to live a life of nothing but compromises at the moment.
When you follow the Principle and do what is Right and not what you are told to do, you just dont care if or not others respond to that in the right way, even if its some Super Power of the World because in your heart you know, that you are doing the right thing.
Thats called Winning the hearts of 'Your People'.

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

Do you think over government cares about winning our hearts? No such thing would have ever happened, if they even cared a little.

Munahil Murrieum | 14 years ago

Thats the point. see thats the answer to our fall. The Question is Why did (our people)we vote for such goons at the first place ?
See all roads head back to us being the actual culprits.

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

Yes, indirectly all of us are responsible. Some for not voting, and some for voting the wrong people ( I would not call them leaders) :/
But again, votes system is unfair and in villages etc, due to Feudal System, landlords etc, they force their people to vote the specific party. And their people, being poor and suppressed do not have any other options. Thus, it is our corrupt and dishonest system responsible for all this.

Munahil Murrieum | 14 years ago

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Nabeha | 14 years ago

Yes It was a drama .. If they can assassinate Sadam Hussain infront of everyone then why will they not even let anyone take picture of Osama bin laden's dead body and throw it in sea? There are no proofs about this operation except for that DNA report which no one trust. Its very obvious that America wanted one reason to continue War on Terror and even Americans were getting against their operations so they plotted this Osama bin laden execution plan to continue whatever they are doing in the name of War on Terror..

Answered by: Nabeha | 14 years ago

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But we dont have any proof that the operation was just a drama, either. The only possible way to know the truth is asking US to make the evidences public, i think thats the least we deserve being the allies on the War 'Of' Terror.

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

But every operation (even if its carried out to catch normal criminals) is supported by evidences and in the absence of evidences it is worthless like plain drama. And this one was an international case in which many other countries were involved so it should be proved.

Nabeha | 14 years ago

So why is the whole world willing to take it as the truth. why isnt the educated world out there, who has its stakes involved in this war, asking serious questions about it?

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

Because they are under debt of super power or they are not concerned about operations in Pakistan.. It could be anything

Nabeha | 14 years ago

yeah well that could be possible.

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

or lack of unity.. I sometimes think how awesome we Muslims can be if all Muslim countries unite to stand for each other.

Nabeha | 14 years ago

My take on these Developed Countries is that they are extremely professional in their external affairs. They'd only go so far as to benefit from something, unlike us who are always dragged into matters like these by force. Perhaps its the strategy of these Super Powers to not let Muslims unite as a force in order to safeguard their own international interests. Let alone standing as an Ummah, I have my faith in the fact that even if we stand united as a Nation we can do a lot for the whole Ummah.

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

Yes I agree .. I hope that to happen soon, big INSHALLAH :)

Nabeha | 14 years ago

me too. iA

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

interesting discussion and inshaAllah :)

Sumi | 14 years ago

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Zainab Hussain | 14 years ago

I take it as a DRAMA by Pakistani govt n the US govt, I believe OBL has died but they might have caught him and killed him before this whole scene of Abbottabad, How is it possible that the wanted criminal can live in somewhere with his family and gets noticed by no one? the place he is living in is Pakistan, where people are so concerned about their neighborhood. This whole scenes was to disgrace the name of Pakistan in the world. How n from where did they ACTUALLY found him? why did they buried him at sea? these questions wud remain unanswered.

Answered by: Zainab Hussain | 14 years ago

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Unless someone starts asking them. See this is where the role of media comes in. the should keep asking the Questions until they get a response instead they shift to new breaking news and forget about what happened yesterday.

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

@ Awais: depends on who is controlling the media and what one wants to achieve through it :)

Sumi | 14 years ago

@ Awais Agreed but If the media wants to or "allowed to"

Zainab Hussain | 14 years ago

So, I keep asking people, If they have such apprehensions about who is controlling media, why do they/we believe everything that they feed us??
Why do we just sit in front of the talk shows and suck up the ready-made point of view that they offer us.
e.g. The latest episode of Rangers shooting incidents is Kharotabad and Karachi :(

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

Why do we believe everything that we see without asking for the context?? When are we going to start believing in the reason??

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

@ Awais: I actually wonder how many watch those shows in real and how many properly read news and what for? At times we only want to gain knowledge in order to be up to date and have something to talk about. Those, who actually want to understand what is happening around them, they will also make an effort to varify certain statements and get hold of different point of views. We need to learn to question things. Apart from that, it is very difficult to imagine a society full of intellectuals. :)

Sumi | 14 years ago

Nah i dont think that even the real intellects of our society care to dig for facts, or atleast most of them. People are just indifferent, I mean most of them are, otherwise we would have seen a change appearing. Even if someones asks the questions nobody is even willing to stand beside them, instead they just wanna sit in front of their TVs and feast on the ready-made knowledge made available to them,

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

Often things only start mattering to us as soon as we are directly affected by them.

Sumi | 14 years ago

exactly, which is completely inhumane :(

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

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Sumi | 14 years ago

Someone as 'important' as OBL was killed and burried in such a short span that no one got the slightest hint of what actually happened. Was not his death supposed to be the 'highlight' of the whole 'War on terror' and an heroic achievement - something that needs to be displayed (as in the case of Saddam Hussain, where one was allowed to witness the last few minutes of his life)?
I find it necessary that one goes back in time and tries to figure out how Taliban 'emerged', who these people are/were, who supported them, how/when and why this whole 'Talibanization' started (historical background and setting).
Please correct me if I am wrong, but could it be that whenever we heard of OBL it was mostly through a video or audio message only? If so, why?

Answered by: Sumi | 14 years ago

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Exactly!!!!! Why is the world so blindfolded of reality and logic and everything that makes sense?? Why do they believe everything that they are told by the US?? Why didnt US deem it necessary to give the world the solid proof of usama's killing?

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

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Faiq Latifi | 14 years ago

You are talking about something which will never happen.. You will never be provided with evidence... Its just a useless discussion... And as far as my instict is concerned, its always been the same i.e. There is no Usama Bin Laden... :/ this is what I beleive... deep thing I said, think over it... I dnt mean that he doesn't exist buh he is not how the world know him as... !

Answered by: Faiq Latifi | 14 years ago

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Interesting posture i'll have to say.

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

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HaroOn Dilshad | 14 years ago

What i see is a drama,an excuse for invading Pakistan(CURSE on them:@).When one keeps on shouting something and people become use to it,one may really go for such childish statements.And afreen,the wordy evidence,i found somebody saying"In old ages when people could'nt find somebody in them,they considered the royal army killed and delivered his body to sea".Primitive Scam I reckon

Answered by: HaroOn Dilshad | 14 years ago

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yeah and well they expected us to fall for it.

Awais Amjad | 14 years ago

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Too Many Osamas on the site, any chance Osama Bin Laden joins us too? Or you really think he is dead?

The serious Question remains whats your view about the Abbottabad operation? It does not have to be supported by evidence. You can even use logical answers and/or what you 'feel' actually happened? What do your instincts say?

The serious Question remains whats your view about the Abbottabad operation? It does not have to be supported by evidence. You can even use logical answers and/or what you 'feel' actually happened?
What do your instincts say?